Thursday, December 16, 2004

Bill says it like it is, John changes to what he thinks should be????

Bill,



You raise some valid points touching on complex issues. The original plans for Coto included common facilities, a school and a grocery store, among other things. All of these amenities were pulled out of the plans to build more homes. We have various developers and certain County officials to thank for the end result.



At any rate, I especially like your idea concerning the possibility of a meeting/senior center. Of course, I assume you are suggesting that we build such a facility IN ADDITION to the youth sports fields already in place, and NOT that the kids’ fields should be ripped out to build a pool and spa for the senior citizens in Coto.
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No, John What he stated was not to ROP out the ball diamond, he wants to have a pool, spa and work out center for ALL the residents. your reply makes it sound like the seniors at Coto want to eliminate the kids entirely. Don't think that is what he said.
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The Association still has an opportunity to do something with the undeveloped lot(s) at the Coto Sports Park. I think we should be having that dialogue. I also think the Association should continue to explore (and has explored) opportunities in connection with the Welcome Home Center, although we have far less (if any) control with respect to that property. We should explore other possibilities as well. As an example, when I was on the board, we explored the possibility of “leasing” the old club in the Village and making it available to our Association’s members. It was a legal thicket, but a prior owner/manager of the facility was very interested in making it work.



Best regards,



John



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Subject: Re: Sports Park



John:

I think the sports park revenue issue will go on so long as there is a total dedication of all that property to one activity.

The question that a lot of people living here and new residents ask is "why do we not have a community center for our youth as well as our senior citizens?"

It is almost to a point of embarrassment that a community this sizes does not have an activity center. I can think of no other gated community of this size in California with the demographics we have, that rents the golf clubhouse for its monthly meetings.

I have raised this question for almost ten years now and the usual rebuttal is, "We have property available in the sports park that could be used for a center."

Right--if you wanted to build a building that was fifteen feet wide and thirty feet long.

This community deserves to have a recreation area that serves the majority of the residents, not just a seasonal youth park. I think the time will come when we realize that the baseball diamond is costing the board more than just money. This is a gated private community. The property is of premium value and private. Those that feel that we have a "social obligation" to the surrounding communities to provide an exchange youth activities facility need to understand that the outside facilities are public and paid for from municipal funding. Maybe they can obtain County funds or State funds to build a facility by the 241 and Antonio Drive. This discussion of not raising facility fees for fear of losing the income indicates just how dependent we are on pleasing soccer and little league organizations. Its time the board started a project where we could have an activities center with a pool, spa and work out room and a meeting center. Paying $200 a month dues should provide something for everyone in return. Take a page from what the residents of Aliso Viejo accomplished. Before there was a charter for cityhood there were committees building facilities for their citizens. their youth park and meeting center is a showpiece of community teamwork. The community funded every single construction dollar by pancake breakfasts, concerts and 10,000 runs along with other functions. When Allis Vie became a city their recreation and parks department was well on its way to becoming and award winning example of forethought and planning.

The journey of a thousand miles,..........

Regards,

Bill Gast

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